Team Fortress 2 in NZ

Jayson (14) from New Zealand Writes: “I’m a 14yo guy who live in NZ and my dad is being rather unfair. I’ve played a very wide range of games rating from “G” to “R18″. While at home however I’m only allowed to play games rated “T”. I’ve let it go many times before but there is this one game called “Team Fortress 2″ and it is rated “M” for cartoon violence. . . .


I have showed my dad videos and screen-shots of the game but he still believes it will be bad for my to play. I get annoyed because he has never played it before and knows nothing about it yet he says I’m not allowed to play it. On that note, he has never played a modern game let alone anything to do with shooters. I was just wondering if you could dig up some information or give your professional opinion on my situation. This is a special case for me because I’m very bored at home with nothing to do and also because the in-game chat for this game will enable me to talk to friends and even some family that i haven’t talked to in years. I would really appreciate something to back ME up so he will let me play it.

Hi Jayson, first of all, sorry, I have a policy where I don’t openly question or contradict parents – so I can’t tell your Dad to let you play a game that he’s at least done a little home work on. Screenshots/videos/etc., I can correct misconceptions, I can tell him that I would allow my own 14 year old to play this game with friends and that, as shooters go, Team Fortress 2 is cartoonish, silly, very well made, and tasteful for what it is – a game about two teams competing to blow each other up.

It is also less violent than Rugby.

What I CAN do is just explain the game and why it’s so fun.  Mr. Jayson’s Dad, remember when you were young and you and your mates would run around with fake guns or with sticks meant to be guns playing war? Remember what was going on in your head? That was bloodier than this game.  The game simply gives graphics and rules to the kind of social competitive fantasy play that pretty much all men – and some women – in all cultures engage in.

In TF2 you have the Red team and the Blue team (any inaccuracies from this point on are due to my not playing this game for a few years). Each team features different classes (positions, like in sports) that have specific roles. There’s a sneaky guy, a sniper, a flamethrower, a big heavy machine gunner, a trap setting engineer, and a soldier type. Oh, there’s also a Medic who’s role is to follow teammates around HEALING them. Anyway, the two teams fight over territory to get the flag of the other team and score points to win the game. That’s the basics right there.

It’s paintball, in virtual space.  When I blast a character played by my best friend in the world I’m not killing him. I’m doing the equivalent of pinning him in wresting or slam dunking him on a basketball court. That’s the kind of competition these games represent. The violence and gunplay are just window dressing, adding to the comic book appeal.

In TF2 a person who is “dead” is punished by having to wait a while to come back into the game – respawn. No one gets hurt, nobody can get hurt, and the thrill the game provides isn’t not KILLING, it’s SURVIVING.  The background might be violent, but most team sports are violent as a subtext, and at least this one de-emphasizes the blood in favor of cartoon visuals. The positions, characters that are playable all require skill and practice, like any game. There’s also a fair amount of strategy involved.

My point is, if this game offends you, then any violent sport or activity – like, again, paintball, for lack of a better example – should also offend you. If it’s just the virtual blood that bothers you, well, that’s a legitimate concern. One I think is nonsense but an opinion you have a right to hold.

The social aspect shouldn’t be ignored and while there are jerks online if you play randomly (most can be avoided or muted) the game is meant to be played co-operatively. Each player playing their position and playing it well, working together to win the match. If your son has friends and family he can play this game with – so much the better!

If you fear the game will make your son more aggressive or violent – I say don’t worry about it. The studies that indicate games like this cause aggression also show that futbol or rugby or wrestling or boxing – cause similar aggression. My main point sir, is that Team Fortress 2 is all about good old fashioned traditional fake violent boy play.

And when you were a lad —- you would have loved it!

You can check my credentials on this site – the basics are I’m a 39 year-old father of two with 11 years as a professional game critic, 7 years as an expert in games and media violence, and the experience of playing hundreds and hundreds of violent video games without a dent in my empathy or compassion for real living beings.

The call is always up to you, but this is as good a bending point as any. There are far, far more violent and anti-social games your son could be playing.

Hope that helps Jayson and Jayson’s Dad!

-GamerDad

14 Responses to “Team Fortress 2 in NZ”

  1. That’s one of the best, and most well thought out articles I’ve read in a long time. Kudos.

  2. Thanks! As always, spread the word

  3. Same here, great article. I agree with everything you said, although I’ve only played a few times.

  4. I agree . And well put to geather and thought full about the Game. I am a 47 year old gamer dad and I love CounterStrike Source ( Valve = Steam ) were the game was released and played . I myself dont play the game , only because its just like you state ” Team Fortress 2 is cartoonish, silly, very well made, and tasteful for what it is. the game is meant to be played co-operatively. Each player playing their position and playing it well, working together to win the match. If your son has friends and family he can play this game with – so much the better! ” and Im more into the realistic warfair . But I do have a 6 year old and a 12 year old I let play that game and they love playing against each other . they bolth have there own Steam accounts and I try to monitor the players they can hear or talk to online ( mute ) because like you say, the only drawback to that game are the mouths of some players…

  5. Is Halo Reach and Team Fortress about the same intensity level?

  6. THanks for the review. I’m going to let my son check it out.

  7. @Anonymous no, Team Fortress 2 is much, much milder than Halo Reach. TF2 is cartoony and Halo is very real.

  8. Just found this site – brilliant! Thanks for giving me some guidance.

  9. Thanks for the insightful comments!

  10. My parents wont let me play tf2 exempt man vs. machine. M vs. M is a new game mode where you fight waves of ROBOTS. its really fun too

  11. I am twelve and I can play TF2, well when i say i can i do but
    technically my parents dont know like i havent introduced tf2
    to them but if they come into my room
    and see me playing it they dont question
    it.

    But really I think nova 3 on android
    is more violent than this

    This is just a fun, light FPS shooter

    I hope that helped

    R.J.

  12. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101022065004AAduwar

    This yahoo page says how to turn off gore and blood. Haven’t tried it yet but plan to soon.

  13. “If you fear the game will make your son more aggressive or violent – I say don’t worry about it. The studies that indicate games like this cause aggression also show that futbol or rugby or wrestling or boxing – cause similar aggression. My main point sir, is that Team Fortress 2 is all about good old fashioned traditional fake violent boy play.”

    I would have to disagree with this statement and say that the boys father should worry about this. Whilst TF2 may cause similar aggression to football or rugby, there is a very big difference. In both of these cases the nature of the play triggers a release of hormones and adrenaline which is where the aggression comes from. The big difference is that when playing a physical game like football or rugby, the body can process the adrenaline and it moves through the system (it’s the fight or flight mechanism). When playing TF2, the adrenaline builds up in the system and has no where to go. It creates more aggression, and stress and anxiety.
    I have recently banned my own son from playing TF2 because of the deterioration in his behaviour. It’s amazing how quickly he calms down and his behaviour improves when he’s not playing this game.
    I think it’s a major worry for parents, especially at a sensitive time for a persons brain as in the teenage years, it undergoes huge changes. High levels of adrenaline and stress hormones such as cortisol are a very bad idea.
    Sometimes parents have to take a stance to protect their children, even when it’s an unpopular decision.

  14. I disagree. My son plays this, and the worst thing that has happened in terms of aggression is if an annoying player is bugging him, or if a group of people in the game gang up on him. He reacts to it mildly, trying to ask the annoying player and the people ganging up on him to stop. If they don’t, he quits the server he’s in and goes on a different one or does offline play

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